Multi-use CCTV

[ChurchMouse]

I have been asked to consider a CCTV system for the local church which meets, or at least attempts to meet, the following criteria. The church is large - approximately 50M long by 18M wide.

1 - Low cost - goes without saying of course! It's a church.
2 - CCTV cameras which can be used as service enhancers during the day (show organist playing, choir singing, etc.) by routing selected images to a screen via a PC to video projector), and when church is closed switching them to motion activated surveillance mode.
3 - Some of the cameras need to be steerable cameras
4 - Easy wiring as it would have to be DIY and church fabric does not lend itself to concealed wiring.
5 - Connection to internet for remote control when needed.

My thoughts are to make this a PC controlled system, recording to hard disk using software control. IP cameras (some remotely steerable - ? via PC and switchable via PC). Wiring would use Cat5 cable as I am not sure about wireless having heard of interference problems. Internet connection would be by connecting wired or wirelessly to adjacent (50M) LAN in the vicarage.

While technically minded I have no experience in this field, though very competent in respect of computers.

Am I on the right track with these suggestions or should I go back to the drawing board. Suggestions re suitable equipment/software would be appreciated. I am not asking anyone to do my research for me but the experts amongst you may have answers at the tips of your fingers!

[brian]

Hi churchmouse- welcome to CCTV core.

As for recommendations - not sure if they can help, but you could try somewhere like Pakatak Security & Surveillance Products

Alternatively, we have a few users here who may be able to help, such as iStorm:
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Hope that helps.

[iStorm]

Thanks Brian, Hi Mouse, I would go for a pc based digital system, mainly for the reason that you know what your doing with computers, Your first point is an easy solutions, you can run a video cable from the second output on the Dvr cards you will be buying to the projector, just as you would a dvd player or other source device! As for PTZ (Pan,Tilt,Zoom) Camera's i think your talking about? Because all your camera's would be I.P camera's if they where connected to a networked P.C! P.T.Z would allow you to access the pc from some where else and control the camera's target area and zoom! Zoom lense required on camera, you could also bare in mind that you can have 1 PTZ camera covering multiple area's if you installed P.I.R detectors, you could designate each P.I.R a zone, then program the P.T.Z's to turn to the selected zone upon activation, more expensive camera and motor but less camera's, I could go on and on, but as i say to most people, you realy do need a survey and some quality advise! Before going forward and spending the chuch's money so to speak! Hope this has helped please drop me a call if i can help more!

[ChurchMouse]

Thanks Iain - useful information.

[securityman]

ChurchMouse

I fitted CCTV into a Church and it simply but please pair in mind you must have SIGNS up if your in the UK as it is under DPA also Please remeber the person who is Controlling or watching or as access to CCTV MUST be SIA reg, as a local Church near me was fined for the man not being SIA reg and that was due to some things went missing still to this day i dunno how you could walk out with GOD i would be scared encase he watched me,

BIG GOD is watching you

[ChurchMouse]

What is SIA?

Edit - Found the answer.

I don't think I need one. I would be installing a CCTV unmanned system in the church not as a commercial supplier but as a member of the congregation and Building & Works committee. I am not a security consultant (actually I am retired doctor), I am not selling a service nor am I being paid anything for my work.

[thecctvguru]

I would still take a look at the data protection act, or you local data commisioner. (I'm not sure were yours would be based, but my nearest (Shropshire) is in chester.

[ChurchMouse]

I agree the Data Protection Act applies and I need to comply with its requirements. It was just the need to register under SIA I doubted. Thanks however for the advice.

[securityman]

NO SIA you must be as your are not an Council Building and your not an Council Employee

NO matter what you do and if it for Security purpose and you want to use to fight crime and use it in court you are legally required to be SIA register. This may set back the Church Money but the church is no different to Shop on conner or that shopping centre.

If you are operating the CCTV and are not SIA register you can be fined or sent to jail or BOTH and if that if your found guilty that most likly to happen you will be told to get SIA Regstiter and if you fail to so you may get told to remove the CCTV which again will cost you money.

[Ronnie Tappenden]

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